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		<title>By: Ken Bainton</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-11656</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Bainton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your assessment and I am trying to do my part.  I have an extensive collection (primarily CDs) of african and carribean music, and am grateful to anyone willing to share unavailable music in any form.  thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment and I am trying to do my part.  I have an extensive collection (primarily CDs) of african and carribean music, and am grateful to anyone willing to share unavailable music in any form.  thanks</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-9897</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your thoughtful insights, Henk. I was, until recently, unaware of the scramble by treasure hunters to plunder vast quantities of vinyl from less developed countries around the world. Some few of them do an extraordinary job making available freely on the internet, the incredibly rich and rare music that is increasingly extinct, while a couple of passionate music lovers and collectors are trying to market the music, remixed and repackaged, for the benefit of listeners and the musicians themselves. My contribution at my other site is much more modest, sharing a relatively limited library. Yet I have noticed that in addition to the petty traders trying to score profits by selling cultural treasures, there are a few bloggers who do the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your thoughtful insights, Henk. I was, until recently, unaware of the scramble by treasure hunters to plunder vast quantities of vinyl from less developed countries around the world. Some few of them do an extraordinary job making available freely on the internet, the incredibly rich and rare music that is increasingly extinct, while a couple of passionate music lovers and collectors are trying to market the music, remixed and repackaged, for the benefit of listeners and the musicians themselves. My contribution at my other site is much more modest, sharing a relatively limited library. Yet I have noticed that in addition to the petty traders trying to score profits by selling cultural treasures, there are a few bloggers who do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Henk Madrotter</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-8774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henk Madrotter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 07:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People ask me all the time if I can post WAV or FLAC files on my blog but living in a small village on a volcano just outside the city of Bandung, Indonesia the internet connection is slow at best and 320kbps is the best I can do and I think those files are good enough for what I do. People download them and play them in radioshows/parties and no complaints...

What worries me more is the disappearance of music here, mostly because of foreign traders (Western and Japanese) who buy up stuff dirt cheap in bulk and then proceed to sell it again very expensively in their countries of origin or on the web. Got to really hating them actually. I have helped some folks to find music here but they were exceptions, total music lovers trying to find what they really love, not looking to make a buck. For the rest I always have the same answers to the questions I regularly get asked via mail or comments. &quot;Where do you buy your music?&quot; Well, I ain&#039;t telling. &quot;Will you sell your records to me?&quot; Nope. &quot;Will you be my personal crate-digging guide when I come over?&quot; Nope, do your own digging, it&#039;s hard work....

Kudos to all the great bloggers out there that SHARE what they&#039;ve got through hard work and endless searching but I&#039;ve got nothing but contempt for those that go to all these third world countries and empty them of their culture for the sake of money....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People ask me all the time if I can post WAV or FLAC files on my blog but living in a small village on a volcano just outside the city of Bandung, Indonesia the internet connection is slow at best and 320kbps is the best I can do and I think those files are good enough for what I do. People download them and play them in radioshows/parties and no complaints&#8230;</p>
<p>What worries me more is the disappearance of music here, mostly because of foreign traders (Western and Japanese) who buy up stuff dirt cheap in bulk and then proceed to sell it again very expensively in their countries of origin or on the web. Got to really hating them actually. I have helped some folks to find music here but they were exceptions, total music lovers trying to find what they really love, not looking to make a buck. For the rest I always have the same answers to the questions I regularly get asked via mail or comments. &#8220;Where do you buy your music?&#8221; Well, I ain&#8217;t telling. &#8220;Will you sell your records to me?&#8221; Nope. &#8220;Will you be my personal crate-digging guide when I come over?&#8221; Nope, do your own digging, it&#8217;s hard work&#8230;.</p>
<p>Kudos to all the great bloggers out there that SHARE what they&#8217;ve got through hard work and endless searching but I&#8217;ve got nothing but contempt for those that go to all these third world countries and empty them of their culture for the sake of money&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sez</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-7769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Sez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 08:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks indeed for this very insightful article, and quite accurate on the ubiquity of excessive compression and low bitrate mp3s - unless you use a piledriver daily for your job, you really can hear the difference between 128/192 and 320 ... and FLAC or wav are in a different universe!

Whilst the advent of the Internet has spawned low bitrate rips, it has had one beneficial effect - easy and usually free online access to rips of long-deleted vinyls from the most obscure corners of the world. Back then, trying to find a Zimbabwean or Jamaican pressing, for example, was virtually impossible even for those living in major Western cities - for those out in the sticks, nigh-on impossible. And once out-of-print, well, no chance. But now dedicated sites circulate this African musical heritage to all who have the patience to search the web for it. Robert will know all these sites, but readers may not: globalgroovers, wrldsrv, freedomblues, electricjive, each . blogspot.com, which specialize in rips of long-extinct but bouncing African vinyls. My humblest thanks to them, to rhythmconnection and to all who keep this heritage alive, cheers Dave Sez.

PS: for a most interesting discussion by a working musician (Dave Allen, bassist of the legendary politpunkfunk group, the Gang of Four) on digitisation and its impact on artists, see:

http://www.pampelmoose.com/2011/06/dear-musicians-please-be-brilliant-or-get-out-of-the-way#comments.

I, in my own little way, try to help preserve rare recordings in &#039;megaposts&#039; of mostly new wave groups, indexing links to all available live or unreleased recordings by a particular group. For those who don&#039;t yet know the Gang of Four, you&#039;ll find a link to my megapost of their work in the comments to the pampelmoose piece; all of my megaposts (two pages, so click &#039;Older Posts&#039; at the bottom of the first page) are at the address below, and don&#039;t forget to check the comments for additions and reuploads - hope you find something you like, cheers, Dave Sez.

http://knowyourconjurer.blogspot.com/search/label/Dave%20Sez

and one prog-jazz/blues megapost here:

http://overdoseoffingalcocoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/colin-hodgkinson.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks indeed for this very insightful article, and quite accurate on the ubiquity of excessive compression and low bitrate mp3s &#8211; unless you use a piledriver daily for your job, you really can hear the difference between 128/192 and 320 &#8230; and FLAC or wav are in a different universe!</p>
<p>Whilst the advent of the Internet has spawned low bitrate rips, it has had one beneficial effect &#8211; easy and usually free online access to rips of long-deleted vinyls from the most obscure corners of the world. Back then, trying to find a Zimbabwean or Jamaican pressing, for example, was virtually impossible even for those living in major Western cities &#8211; for those out in the sticks, nigh-on impossible. And once out-of-print, well, no chance. But now dedicated sites circulate this African musical heritage to all who have the patience to search the web for it. Robert will know all these sites, but readers may not: globalgroovers, wrldsrv, freedomblues, electricjive, each . blogspot.com, which specialize in rips of long-extinct but bouncing African vinyls. My humblest thanks to them, to rhythmconnection and to all who keep this heritage alive, cheers Dave Sez.</p>
<p>PS: for a most interesting discussion by a working musician (Dave Allen, bassist of the legendary politpunkfunk group, the Gang of Four) on digitisation and its impact on artists, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pampelmoose.com/2011/06/dear-musicians-please-be-brilliant-or-get-out-of-the-way#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.pampelmoose.com/2011/06/dear-musicians-please-be-brilliant-or-get-out-of-the-way#comments</a>.</p>
<p>I, in my own little way, try to help preserve rare recordings in &#8216;megaposts&#8217; of mostly new wave groups, indexing links to all available live or unreleased recordings by a particular group. For those who don&#8217;t yet know the Gang of Four, you&#8217;ll find a link to my megapost of their work in the comments to the pampelmoose piece; all of my megaposts (two pages, so click &#8216;Older Posts&#8217; at the bottom of the first page) are at the address below, and don&#8217;t forget to check the comments for additions and reuploads &#8211; hope you find something you like, cheers, Dave Sez.</p>
<p><a href="http://knowyourconjurer.blogspot.com/search/label/Dave%20Sez" rel="nofollow">http://knowyourconjurer.blogspot.com/search/label/Dave%20Sez</a></p>
<p>and one prog-jazz/blues megapost here:</p>
<p><a href="http://overdoseoffingalcocoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/colin-hodgkinson.html" rel="nofollow">http://overdoseoffingalcocoa.blogspot.com/2011/07/colin-hodgkinson.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-5502</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FLAC, like Apple Lossless (ALAC), conserves all the data to make the music indistinguishable from the original recording, for the human ear. I use Apple Lossless for all my music storage, from ripping CDs to digitizing records. It saves some room. If it conserves the aural &quot;space,&quot; that is something for every listener to discover on their own. By the way, on &lt;a href=&quot;http://rhythmconnection.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my other site&lt;/a&gt; I share out-of-print music as 320 mpeg files. While not perfect, it retains enough data that almost any human would not be able to hear much of a difference, and is small enough to upload/download over moderate connections.

Cheers, and thanks for visiting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FLAC, like Apple Lossless (ALAC), conserves all the data to make the music indistinguishable from the original recording, for the human ear. I use Apple Lossless for all my music storage, from ripping CDs to digitizing records. It saves some room. If it conserves the aural &#8220;space,&#8221; that is something for every listener to discover on their own. By the way, on <a href="http://rhythmconnection.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">my other site</a> I share out-of-print music as 320 mpeg files. While not perfect, it retains enough data that almost any human would not be able to hear much of a difference, and is small enough to upload/download over moderate connections.</p>
<p>Cheers, and thanks for visiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-5499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scary stuff!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scary stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Siddh</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-4740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siddh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 09:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about FLAC and APE?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about FLAC and APE?</p>
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		<title>By: India Kittredge.</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[India Kittredge.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pertinent. Thanks for posting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pertinent. Thanks for posting!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert,

I got so emotional when I read your article and what you have experienced over the years. I am the founder of a Non-Profit organization in Kenya and one of our main goals is to preserve the African art, music and culture. It is very sad that we are losing ourselves so fast. 

I am keen on connecting with you and anyone interested in learning more about my organization.

Am glad that there are people like you who are trying to put the word out there.


Simon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>I got so emotional when I read your article and what you have experienced over the years. I am the founder of a Non-Profit organization in Kenya and one of our main goals is to preserve the African art, music and culture. It is very sad that we are losing ourselves so fast. </p>
<p>I am keen on connecting with you and anyone interested in learning more about my organization.</p>
<p>Am glad that there are people like you who are trying to put the word out there.</p>
<p>Simon.</p>
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		<title>By: CC Smith</title>
		<link>http://rhythmconnection.org/?p=490&#038;cpage=1#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CC Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 19:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert, you are describing in painful detail the reality and dilemmas that music fans and music industry &quot;refugees&quot; face nowadays. The point is: what can we do about it? The big pop stars have no trouble at all making and selling music, even in CD form. It&#039;s the &quot;marginal&quot; artists who make the music we love who are endangered, with few independent labels left to produce and sell their recordings. That makes individual musicians responsible for making music on their own, and naturally there is rarely enough money for them to finance their own studio work and CD manufacturing, and then have to figure out how to sell the album. We are in a time of transition, and don&#039;t know yet where all this will end up, but I sure wish they would hurry up and figure it out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, you are describing in painful detail the reality and dilemmas that music fans and music industry &#8220;refugees&#8221; face nowadays. The point is: what can we do about it? The big pop stars have no trouble at all making and selling music, even in CD form. It&#8217;s the &#8220;marginal&#8221; artists who make the music we love who are endangered, with few independent labels left to produce and sell their recordings. That makes individual musicians responsible for making music on their own, and naturally there is rarely enough money for them to finance their own studio work and CD manufacturing, and then have to figure out how to sell the album. We are in a time of transition, and don&#8217;t know yet where all this will end up, but I sure wish they would hurry up and figure it out!</p>
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